XII.XIX.XII: The Yaldabaoth project started between June and July, 2017. I was appreciating the opus “Ophis Christos” from the Brazilian entity Ain Sof Aur, seeing the booklet, looking at those illustrations that awaken myself curiosity and anxiety to get my knowledge deeper. Decided join with XXIII.IV.IV to talk about it, such that he has an extreme facility to interpretations based in the theme topics. Then we had the idea to create a project about the Gnosticism and the occult knowledge.
Yaldabaoth is: XII.XIX.XII – All Instruments and Vocals XXIII.IV.IV – Lyrics
2.In January you had released a demo, can you tell us a little bit more about the musical style you wnt for on the recording?
XII.XIX.XII: We decided to show our reinterprets through the infernal and dark atmosphere of black metal. I believe this is an art that adorns perfectly with the theme we are writing.
3.Both the lyrics and bands name comes from 'Nag Hammadi' and Gnosticism, can you tell us a little bit more about your interest in those topics?
XXIII.IV.IV: The interest by Gnosticism came from the perception by how the christianity always set the debate about their own deviant heresies and ducts. It was the christians who created all the narratives and iconographies about the evil, about hell, about witchcraft, about Lucifer and his demons over the centuries, in its trajectory of domination of the culture and suppression of other religions and social relationships. Many hosts adopt that christian iconography and narrative (that defines this group of oppositions) to position deliberately to the dark side strengths. The Yaldabaoth project wanted to go beyond the affirmation of evil by evil in the inner of the christian cosmovision.
We decided to take the initiative to guide a narrative of the christianity, inverting the polarity. The good is bad, the bad is good. We intend to redeem Lucifer as a
humanity benefactor, that desires his freedom from an oppressive system, controlled by an absolutist and insane monarch, that is god of Israel. A promethean that brought the fire to the men, and that was punished by Olympus for want the creatures become creators. In this sense, we used the Gnosticism as a tool to inquire the christian narrative and rip the veil of their cosmologic conventions. As the goal is to redeem Satan, it becomes in using of the Left Hand Path.
In this sense, we’ll step forward to transform the releases in chapters of am epic narrative, about the creation of the world and a demiurge that goes crazy and tries to imprison its creatures, and about the fight of Lucifer to free these creatures of slavery. The Gnosticism give us the narrative and the tools to confront christianity and creativity to reorganize the history.
4.A lot of the 'Gnostic' scriptures contain a lot of material that was suppressed by the Biblical scholars, do you feel that if the truth was actually exposed in those days the Roman Empire and other piliticians would never of been able to make Christianity the main religion like it has been since the 4th century?
XXIII.IV.IV: The basis of what was to be the christianity emerged in the growing fertile region (Egypt, Mesopotamia, Assyria, Palestine, north of Turkey, Baluchistan, Crete) in the cooper age [1300 – 700 B.C.].
The skin colors were of kaleidoscopic multiplicity, although their cultural, linguistic and social expressions communed by a common ground. In this sense, the old testament books (taken from the Jews) is a mix of Sumerian traditions (the resemblance of genesis with Enuma Elish is impressive), Egyptian (many psalms are so similar with the contents of book of the dead) and people of the palestinian region (many of the ecclesiastical books are linked with the Hamurabic legislation). Some episodes of the Exodus imply that the hebrews were deeply divided about the cult to Yahweh, and they adopted female deities, as the iconic Golden Calf. Only resume in the contemporary bible the book of judges and prophets to witness the vainly and endless effort of specifics political authorities to separate Hebrews of Philistines, Canaanites, Sadducees and others. It was during the Israelite kingdoms that Torá emerged from a temptation of organize the oral and written tradition of many people subdued by David’s dynasty (+/- 1000 B.C), eliminating many scripts and forging others, all in the name of a coherence that would give the impression of predestination and theology. The political purpose is perceived by this effort, that is absolutist and centralizer. Something that we saw in Akanaton’s Egypt, in the Achaemenids dynasties of Persia.
The successive Babylonian, Persian and Roman achievements from the Jewish Palestine region only cooperated with the cultural syncretism which was the appropriate field to the emergence of uncountable philosophical and religious
chains, by where was born the primitive christianity. In its origin was a chaotic swirl of Neoplatonism, Pythagorean exoterism, Jewish Kabbalah and many mythologies with Mesopotamian and Egyptian basis.
Add this to the salvationist and ecumenical purpose of the Persian Zoroastrianism and the human history while a Manicheism’s opposite game, then you have a popular religion that was spread as wild fire in the periphery of the roman empire, mainly through the slaves of many backgrounds, culturally uprooted and physically and psychologically weakened.
To the extent that the roman status quo realized the gregarious potential of the new religion, effective in take conquered people belonging to a community which has a broad sense than concept of roman citizenship (at the time not extendable to slaves), tried to equip this region and empties it of its revolutionary potential. We shouldn’t forget that while christianity was only a jewish heresy, it was relentlessly followed by Roman State, and only was officially adopted when the barbarian invasions threated the integrity of the empire. So ecclesiastic christianity comes as we know it, that seeks to organize the official cannon of its hierarchical religion taking some books and scripts that would be convenient, and throwing away some others, all generated by this cultural mix of the medium orient, in a successive series of councils, the most relevant than all in Nicea (325 A.C.)
In short, the church discarded many books that were contradictories with the political purpose of association. The Bible is a group of books that not always has relationship by itself, just put together to purposes of power upon the assembly.
5.You also add a Luciferian and Left Hand Path approach to the story, can you tell us a little bit more about your interest in the dark arts?
XXIII.IV.IV: Our interest came by subversion of the political, cultural and religious power’s hierarchy, that limits every associative possibilities of the human being. The history of Lucifer, formed by a very broad set of narratives that extrapolate the bible is of the archetype of the rebel, present in so many mythologies like the one who opposes to the dominat order and encourages riots.
6.Can you tell us a little bit more about the artwork that is presented on the demo cover?
XXIII.IV.IV: The cover artwork is about a geometric representation of Pleroma, about an image of a matron in formation/decomposition state that represent the Aeon Sophia leaving the ideal world and falling in the transitory world of matter, represented by the roman ruins in the region of Palmira (current Syria).
7.On the demo you work as a duo, are you open to using a full line upin the studio or do you prefer to remain a duo?
XII.XIX.XII: Yaldabaoth project was formed as a duo and it will be a duo. About some shows, i could get together some people who will give some support in the stage, but i don’t have any marked date yet.
8.What are some of the best shows that the band has played so far and also how would you describe your stage performance?
XII.XIX.XII: we never played live yet. It’s still a future plan.
9.Do you have any touring or show plans for the future?
XII.XIX.XII: I cannot say it yet, probably not.
10.The demo was released on 'Balrogh Records', can you tell us a little bit more about this label?
XII.XIX.XII: This label is the first support we had. Cajado, the owner, gave us all the support to release our first episode “A Queda de Sophia” in cassette format, limited to
11.On a worldwide level how has the reaction been to your music by fans of black metal?
XII.XIX.XII: Our priority always was do it by ourselves to the world, for those who want to know about our reinterpret of the gnostic themes. Although we had positive critics and support from a lot of very important people in the Brazilian black metal scene, including our influences.
12.What is going on with some of the other bands or musical projects these days that the main person is a part of?
XII.XIX.XII: Parallel to Yaldabaoth, i have an atmospheric depressive music project called Allonair. It’s an escape valve that i used to compose songs about personal problems, not necessarily of mine. Allonair has three records released: “Your Life Ends Here” (Full Length), “Hopeless” (EP) and “Alone With My Thoughts” (Full Length). I’m working at a new release at moment, maybe another full, maybe a split album, I don’t know.
I have also an old school black metal band called Helliancy. It has two demos released: Alliance From Hell and Decay Of Our Mind. In the beginning of 2019, I’ll release the third demo “Kill The God In You”. This project is holding on, i’m think about to split up with it.
Then I have more two projects in the paper: Occult Knowledge and Etéreo. News will be announced soon.
13.Where do you see the band heading into musically during the future?
XXIII.IV.IV: In the past, we defined a Gnostic Topography of the metaphysic universe (Pleroma) and Physic (the world created by Yaldabaoth) and the mediation between the plans done by the Tree of Life, created from the initiative of the Aeon Sophia (in our interpretation). Indeed, it’s something analogue that Dante has done in Divine Comedy, when describing the geography of hell, purgatory and heaven, but our goal is not apology to the christianity, but rather a incisive critic. Now we’ll make a similar itinerary to John Milton in Lost Paradise, but our Lucifer will be more noble and will have help of many other instances of power.
14.WHat are some of the bands or musical styles that have had an infleunce on your music and also what are you listening to nowadays?
XII.XIX.XII: My influences are Brazilian bands that I show my total respect, like Vobiscum Inferni, Ain Sof Aur, Black Achemoth, Vulturine and Spell Forest. Today I’m listening to some Funeral Doom metal bands like HellLight and Clouds.
14.Before we wrap up this interview, do you have any final words o thoughts?
XXIII.IV.IV: The religions of the world are stagnant in their interpretations to a premodern hermeneutic, which is unable to meet challenges of a technological and constantly transformation reality. It becomes the shelter of a dangerous reactionary that threats to provoke a conflict which can become nuclear, leading
to the human extinction. It supports productive practices and forms of association between the human being that are leading to a mass extinction of species, to the global warming, and the collapse of the marine life and the other ecosystems. No more anesthetics are given to the existence’s pain, only of conviction to where should exist doubts. The multitude of desperate believers put their religious leaders in power position in the State whose dilemmas, long time ago, exceed those from Cooper Age. In this case, Yaldabaoth only says: FLY OR DIE!